Comments on: Utah Taxpayers Fund Global Education Agenda https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/ Mon, 14 Apr 2014 23:44:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Agenda 21 in Utah? « Political News and Views https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-8940 Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:48:40 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-8940 […] Ed dept. even hosted one of his national conferencesĀ a few years ago and Goodlad had a conference promoting social justice in the classroom a year ago, and had terrorist/educator Bill Ayers as a keynote speaker at his national conference a […]

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By: Soros, Agenda 21 & Utah | American Voter https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-8930 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:33:02 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-8930 […] Ed dept. even hosted one of his national conferences a few years ago and Goodlad had a conference promoting social justice in the classroom a year ago, and had terrorist/educator Bill Ayers as a keynote speaker at his national conference a […]

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By: Jennifer Chamberlain https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-318 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:42:50 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-318 Religious educator: It’s difficult to find out that so much of the education you paid for was a lie to help mislead our youth. The sooner you get the facts straight, the sooner you can correct the path you have been on and help teach the children truth.. There are classes that you can take to learn the history of education and why our public system was set up the way it has been. I have taken these classes and at first I did not want to believe that what they were saying was true, because I knew that we were in deep trouble if it was. However, when I heard it I knew it was in fact true. The sooner we get our educators educated properly, the quicker we can stop the progressive education the children are receiving. Please be a part of correcting the problem, not a part of causing the problem. I hope you don’t fall into the catagory of being too educated to be teachable.

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By: Jenny Z https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-302 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:38:50 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-302 Religious Educator: is “Experience and Education” a book? If so, who is the author? In your fifth sentence, after “and LDS quotes” I can’t find a verb, and am not sure what you’re saying. Find out my own views? I have studied Dewey, and the NNER site to find out for myself. Dewey signed the Humanist Manifesto in part to rid our society of “the opium of the people” (Dewey’s words after Marx). He said the key obstacle to proper education is traditional religion. Religious people practice a “spiritual egotism,…preoccupied with the state of their character, concerned for the purity of their motives and goodness of their souls” (Human Nature and Conduct), and we know for socialists the social good trumps the individual. Dewey never outlined a new method of teaching, only tore down the traditional methods and espoused theories. He said fundamental discoveries “always entail the destruction or disintegration of old knowledge before the new can be created” (Reconstruction in Philosophy). He left others to create the new methods, which is why we see new theories continually cropping up, and being instituted without research to prove their efficacy, but plenty of research, and experience, that show the harm they produce. He espoused “freedom from authority, freedom from the curriculum, [and] freedom from convention” (Democracy and Education). Through play, Dewey saw the “educational value of the activities it involves, and for giving the children the right sort of ideals and ideas about every day life,” and children “will forget to imitate the loud and coarse things they see at home” (Schools of Tomorrow). Whose ideals and ideas are they to learn? He also believed that gender roles were the result of conditioning. I wonder if he ever watched his own children play, if he had any. That’s all I can do for now. Read his “Schools of Tomorrow,” explain it to any parent, and see if that’s what they want for their children. Its horrors are seen in our schools and society today.

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By: Admin https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-300 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:51:02 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-300 Scott, I’m not sure what kind of Dewey propaganda you’ve read, but Dewey was one of the original signatories on the Humanist Manifesto. He’s a socialist through and through. I encourage you to read these articles, the first of which has a link to and some quotes from the Humanist Manifesto (based off the Communist Manifesto), and the second is an article with quotes from Ezra Taft Benson strongly condemning Dewey.
http://www.utahsrepublic.org/education/the-humanist-manifesto/
http://www.utahsrepublic.org/education/dealing-with-korihor/

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By: Religiouseducator https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-299 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:39:07 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-299 Those on this website need to educate themselves on Dewey writings and educatinal philosophies! Read Experience and Education. Dewey is NOT socialistic in his views or philosophy. You are contorting and falsely pigeon-holing him as such. Wow! For an “educational website” there sure appear to be alot of liberties being taken, and LDS quotes innapropriately places in opposition to good educators with good intentions, good philosophies, and IMPECCABLE educational reputations (like Dewey). Why not stop use your time to find out your OWN views on education, instead of ollowing these misinformed (irony on an “educational” blog) opinions?

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By: susie https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-295 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 05:17:32 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-295 Here are just a few quotes from “A Statement On Communism: A statement concerning the position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on Communism” by President David O. McKay….

“[Church members] are free to participate in non church meetings that are held to warn people of the threat of Communism or any other theory or principle that will deprive us of our free agency or individual liberties vouchsafed by the Constitution of the United States. The Church, out of respect for the rights of all its members to have their political views and loyalties, must maintain the strictest possible neutrality.”

“The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth.”

“We therefore commend and encourage every person and every group who is sincerely seeking to study Constitutional principles and awaken a sleeping and apathetic people to the alarming conditions that are rapidly advancing about us. We wish all of our citizens throughout the land were participating in some type of organized self-education in order that they could better appreciate what is happening and know what they can do about it.”

“The entire concept and philosophy of Communism is diametrically opposed to everything for which the Church stands…”

“No member of this Church can be true to his faith, nor can any American be loyal to his trust, while lending aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies; for if he does, they will prove snares to his feet.”

These quotes were taken from a statement by David O. McKay while he was president of the church. He wrote a 39 page book entitled “Statements on Communism and the Constitution of the United States” with much more information about our civil duties to warn the people about these dangers.

When the McKay School of Education, named after this great prophet, starts teaching their students these TRUE gospel principles instead of the worldly philsophies of socialists, communists and atheists whose ideas infiltrated the University 25 years ago when John Goodlad set foot on the campus, we will consider letting this issue go. In the meantime, it is something that we are not only permitted to do by law, but we are required to do by our conscience and by our beliefs.

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By: susie https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-294 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:56:47 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-294 Not yet. The new board members start in January and serve for 4 years. The next election is in 2 years for the other members. I certainly hope that all of these board members are doing their own research about this information we present and don’t just believe the district or this site. I cannot believe anyone with any brains would be pacified by Rhonda’s “Everything-is-fine-you-can-go-back-to-sleep-now” letter which is now being promoted all over the district through school newsletters. We think that custodians and bus drivers need to be saved? Good grief. Anyone with any critical thinking skills should have picked up that NOT ONE real concern was addressed. It was all made up emotional rhetoric and a repeat of the district goals.

I just came back from a week in California and everyone there I spoke to is beside themselves wondering why so many Utahns don’t see this for what it is. They have been around Progressivism for years, see how it enters and are amazed that this is going on where people are so conservative. Following our leaders and being so trusting should not carry over to the socialist and atheist worldly philosophies of the world.

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By: Professor https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-293 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:41:09 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-293 Public Schools, to survive under the current model of large school districts/large administrations, must use a strong income redistribution model. This is why a school district like ASD is so willing follow the Dewey/Goodlad/Ayers trio down the socialist road. So to survive with its half billion dollar budget intact, ASD must spend their time convincing children and the public that progressive socialism is the only true and moral political philosophy to believe in. Unfortunately in this type of system true academics always is forced to take a back seat to nurturing. (Nurturing is an educational term meaning indoctrination.) In the gospel of Dewey/Goodlad/Ayers, that means nurturing the students in progressive socialism. So in education today it is nurture first, academics second. WHich is why ASD students are in the bottom third internationally in math.

You may ask, “What about BYU? They would never support a socialist program that is in opposition to gospel doctrine.” The LDS prophets have certainly warned the members over the years about the problems associated with socialism and communism. It has been pointed out to the LDS folks that socialism and communism has a dismal and tragic track record. However higher education has been controlled for over 50 years now by progressive socialists. As a result most every person gaining advanced degrees in education and social sciences today have a socialist world view. By embracing the philosophy of Dewey/Goodlad/Ayers, the leaders of the McKay School of education certainly demonstrate they fall in line with the average PhD progressive socialist world view.

Some in ASD might suggest that the BYU support of the Dewey/Goodlad/Ayers trinity means the LDS church has changed positions on socialism and communism. So far there has been no announcement from the pulpit, but it is ironic that David O. McKay, who had a school of education named after him, had a lot to say about the dangers of socialism and communism.

So where does that put us in Utah Valley today? Either these McKay and ASD PhD’s are right and we better start getting with the program or President Mckay was right and we had better stand firm.

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By: Jennifer https://www.saveasd.com/utah-taxpayers-fund-global-education-agenda/#comment-292 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 01:37:06 +0000 http://205.134.251.128/~saveasd/?p=520#comment-292 I read a paper from an NNER presentation and learned that “democratic education” means social justice (redistribution of wealth), multiculturalism (which was identified as the driving force behind America’s success) and homosexual rights/advancement/whatever. When we were children we made up things when we played house. ASD leaders want to make up their own definition of democracy to hide their agenda; they must think we’re idiots.
Sue, are the new board members functioning yet?

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